APTLD Board On-line Meeting Logs

Friday April 30, 2004

 

Joanna Tso

09:58:28

Good Morning, Chris and Chanki

Chris Disspain

09:58:37

Hi

Chan-ki Park

09:58:44

hello

Ian Chiang

09:59:26

Hi

Joanna Tso

10:03:04

Hi Shariya

Ian Chiang

10:03:25

today's agenda is on the white board for your reference

Chris Disspain

10:04:35

we are waiting for PDT and who else?

SHZ, .my

10:05:03

hi everyone.

Ian Chiang

10:05:41

prof. Qian might join us later

Ian Chiang

10:06:47

Richard is the same as Prof. Qian

Chris Disspain

10:08:27

PDT is just trying to connect

Chris Disspain

10:12:46

greetings peter

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:12:54

Hi sorry I am late Have you started?

Ian Chiang

10:12:57

Hi Peter

Chris Disspain

10:13:04

waiting for illustrious chair

Ian Chiang

10:13:51

The agenda items include:

1. Preparation of July meetings

1.1 ccTLD Meeting

1.2 ccNSO meeting

1.3 APTLD Meeting

2. The Auditing of APTLD Budget

3. ccNSO Matters

3.1 ICANN Bylaw Amendment

3.2 AP Nominations for ccNSO Election

4. APTLD Endorsement of the dot Asia Proposal

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:13:58

Well, lets start with the July meetings - we have this difficult balance of ccnso and cctld meetings to deal with thoughts?

Chiao Ching

10:14:41

hi peter, in the ICANN meeting website, we now only see ccNSO meeting, no ccTLD meeting....

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:15:35

Yes - thats because the cctld meeting is not an "ICANN" meeting, but, as always, held at the same time.....

Ian Chiang

10:16:00

will we have this time at KL?

Joanna Tso

10:16:19

I think ccNSO meeting will be fine, and GNSO is supporting the secretarial works, right? so the worry is ccTLD meeting, do APTLD support having a separate ccTLD meeting and what's APTLD's role in this.

Chris Disspain

10:16:41

that's right Joanna

Chris Disspain

10:16:55

do the aptld members want a cctld meeting in KL?

SHZ, .my

10:17:55

We would need to pose this qn to our members. There will also be an APTLD meeting.

Chris Disspain

10:18:02

yes

Chris Disspain

10:18:09

apTLD meeting is scheduled for 18th

Joanna Tso

10:18:10

probably not a good idea to suggest not have one, because even some APTLD members are not ccNSO members yet

Chris Disspain

10:18:15

ccNSO meeting for 19th

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:18:37

I think we do want to have 2 meetings - until the ccnso has a majority (or many more) members than now. We don't want to force a break between the members and the "rest" mostly europe...

Chris Disspain

10:18:56

i agree Peter

Yumi Ohashi

10:18:59

Agree with Peter. I worry about segmentation.

Chris Disspain

10:19:34

is there a mechanism for organising a cctld meeting?

SHZ, .my

10:19:37

Which means there are 3 possible meetings in July for AP members -- ccNSO, ccTLD and APTLD

Chris Disspain

10:19:38

a committee?

Chris Disspain

10:19:42

the adcom?

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:19:54

I think once we have 2 meetings only a few more times, people will start to wonder why... and it will sort itself out Until then, cctlds in Rome wanted a meeting separate from the SO meeting,

Chiao Ching

10:20:21

an idea on this is that since gnso will support ccnso secretariat work, so aptld as the regional org. will call for a cctld meeting to continue the "tradition"

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:21:07

A committee ?- yes Either the old adcom or a new one - much the same to me - its the europeans who might want to call it something else

Joanna Tso

10:21:07

this sounds a good idea

Yumi Ohashi

10:21:31

using previous adcom structure with european rep is nice.

Chris Disspain

10:21:34

who will pay for the meetng?

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:21:45

gnso - no - there is nor suggestion the gnso is or will support the ccnso - actually thats another whole topic.....come back to it

Chiao Ching

10:22:02

understood

Chris Disspain

10:23:00

if there is to be a cctld meeting in KL someone will have to provide secretariat services at the meeting

Chris Disspain

10:23:10

someone will have to organise prior to meeting

Chris Disspain

10:23:19

and there will be a $ to be covered

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:23:26

pay - previously funded by attendees( a little) and contributions to the cctld constituency (mostly) with some countries regularly putting in US$5000. Now, without a secretariat etc, no one is funding anything

Chris Disspain

10:23:42

is there any $ in the bank of cctld

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:24:26

There 's no cctld money left the last was spent in Carthage, and Andy had to get funding fronm attendees in Rome,

Chris Disspain

10:25:04

so who would be responsible to organisng meeting and ensuring enough $ collected to cover cost?

Chris Disspain

10:25:13

is that a role for apTLD?

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:25:25

I don't think money will be a problem. The euros will fund at least their share of a meeting. Why don't we log this a question, and move on?

Chris Disspain

10:25:37

ok

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:25:43

Sorry about spelling!!

Ian Chiang

10:26:02

if we will a ccTLD meeting at KL (two days meeting), then we have re-schedule our APTLD meeting on 16th July.

Chris Disspain

10:26:03

move on to..?

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:26:56

I suggest we ! re-appoint me as one delegate to whichever committee the euros are happy with (adcom/new) and 2 appoint Joanna/ian as alternate, and we approach them to see what they want

Chris Disspain

10:27:11

good idea

Yumi Ohashi

10:27:27

agree. thank you, peter.

Chiao Ching

10:27:27

sounds good

Joanna Tso

10:27:46

happy to be of service :-)

Ian Chiang

10:28:00

me too

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:28:14

Next. is it fair to ask aptld secretariat to do most of the admin work for the ccnso meeting? in conjunction with ICANN staff?

Chris Disspain

10:28:36

what sort of admin work do you mean?

SHZ, .my

10:29:29

Has there been any discussion on a separate Sec for ccnso?

Chris Disspain

10:30:10

Shariya - no. Will be discussed in KL

Chris Disspain

10:30:56

ICANN staff are organising the room, web cast, coffee breaks etc

Chris Disspain

10:31:05

for ccNSO meeting

Peter Dengate Thrush

10:31:14

I mean supporting the meeting - getting papers from speakers, running projectors, posting minutes, taking money at the door, issuing badges, ensuring coffee is available. etc etc I know the ICANN staff will do a little , but not this....

Chris Disspain

10:31:25

OK

Joanna Tso

10:31:56

my thought is that gnso supports the secretariat work for ccnso this time in KL, and the newly elected ccnso council will discuss about future ccnso secretariat. APTLD can focus on cctld because it has no money and no secretariat

Chris Disspain

10:32:20

There seems to be some confusion about the role of gnso

Chris Disspain

10:32:34

the gnso is not supporting ccnso in any way

Joanna Tso

10:32:35

but of course, speaking as the aptld secretariat, we can support all, ccnso, cctld and aptld. it will be exciting

Chris Disspain

10:32:56

except that Glen has agreed to run the ccNSo elections

Joanna Tso

10:33:05